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	<title>Comments on: Converting DLP projectors for grayscale operation, part 2.</title>
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		<title>By: danreetz</title>
		<link>http://www.danreetz.com/blog/2008/06/03/converting-dlp-projectors-for-grayscale-operation-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-554</link>
		<dc:creator>danreetz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 23:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chuck, 
Well, unfortunately my advisor shut this work down. I was building an HDR display with a black and white projector as an active spatially modulated backlight, but he did not want the work to continue. I never got much further with it, because later &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.danreetz.com/blog/2009/12/28/the-collapse-of-minard-hall-at-ndsu/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the building collapsed&lt;/a&gt; and I dropped out. I did re-install the color wheel in this projector for them before I left. 

However, I did some fiddling with color wheels later on, at another job of mine. You can either set the color wheel aside (mine were just taped to a plastic box on the side of the projector) and use its&#039; pulse to drive the DLP chip, or you can do what I did later and just make an Arduino send similar pulses. If you use an RTC you can keep the drift really low.

Interestingly, you can freeze some DLP projectors on single frames and look at the dithering done for each color. Watch out, some projectors do not use a signal directly off the color wheel, rather they have a photodiode down the optical path that reads to a sensor mounted directly on the mainboard.

But for a solution you can use now... IIRC the TI DLP development kits have grayscale capability and they have come way down in price. Check out the &lt;a href=&quot;http://focus.ti.com/analog/docs/memsmidlevel.tsp?sectionId=622&amp;tabId=2447 rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DLP commander series&lt;/a&gt;. Though more expensive than commercially available projectors, they save a hell of a lot of development time. I can&#039;t say much about what I did with them, but they&#039;re good to work with and a lot more fun than fooling around with commercial stuff and all the attendant problems. 

Feel free to contact me if you need more info. I&#039;d love to know your application.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chuck,<br />
Well, unfortunately my advisor shut this work down. I was building an HDR display with a black and white projector as an active spatially modulated backlight, but he did not want the work to continue. I never got much further with it, because later <a href="http://www.danreetz.com/blog/2009/12/28/the-collapse-of-minard-hall-at-ndsu/" rel="nofollow">the building collapsed</a> and I dropped out. I did re-install the color wheel in this projector for them before I left. </p>
<p>However, I did some fiddling with color wheels later on, at another job of mine. You can either set the color wheel aside (mine were just taped to a plastic box on the side of the projector) and use its&#8217; pulse to drive the DLP chip, or you can do what I did later and just make an Arduino send similar pulses. If you use an RTC you can keep the drift really low.</p>
<p>Interestingly, you can freeze some DLP projectors on single frames and look at the dithering done for each color. Watch out, some projectors do not use a signal directly off the color wheel, rather they have a photodiode down the optical path that reads to a sensor mounted directly on the mainboard.</p>
<p>But for a solution you can use now&#8230; IIRC the TI DLP development kits have grayscale capability and they have come way down in price. Check out the <a href="http://focus.ti.com/analog/docs/memsmidlevel.tsp?sectionId=622&#038;tabId=2447 rel="nofollow">DLP commander series</a>. Though more expensive than commercially available projectors, they save a hell of a lot of development time. I can&#8217;t say much about what I did with them, but they&#8217;re good to work with and a lot more fun than fooling around with commercial stuff and all the attendant problems. </p>
<p>Feel free to contact me if you need more info. I&#8217;d love to know your application.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.danreetz.com/blog/2008/06/03/converting-dlp-projectors-for-grayscale-operation-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-553</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that the color wheel is removed, what can you do to prevent the mirrors form dithering as if the color whee was still there? While you will still have PWM to control brightness, how do you get the PWM signal to be consistent throughout the entire rotation of the now-missing colorwheel?

Further, if you fully remove the colorwheel (unplug it) so you can close the projector, will the system still work, even though it does not get the positional feedback from the colorwheel?

Thanks
Chuck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the color wheel is removed, what can you do to prevent the mirrors form dithering as if the color whee was still there? While you will still have PWM to control brightness, how do you get the PWM signal to be consistent throughout the entire rotation of the now-missing colorwheel?</p>
<p>Further, if you fully remove the colorwheel (unplug it) so you can close the projector, will the system still work, even though it does not get the positional feedback from the colorwheel?</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Chuck</p>
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		<title>By: marian</title>
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		<dc:creator>marian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need a color wheel projector Optoma EP 739H
Please if you can help me to buy this component
Thank you.

Marian Petrovici
Iasi, Romania</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need a color wheel projector Optoma EP 739H<br />
Please if you can help me to buy this component<br />
Thank you.</p>
<p>Marian Petrovici<br />
Iasi, Romania</p>
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